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Thursday, 18 January 2007
NZ rock legends after only two albums Elemeno P is, Lani Perkis (bass), Dave Gibson (vocals, guitar), Scotty Pearson (drums/percussion) and Justyn Pilbrow (guitar). Photo supplied.
DRUMMERS seldom steal the limelight, unless they’ve got magnetic character and their chops together. Ringo Starr and Keith Moon had it - especially the comedy - so did Ginger Baker and Mitch Mitchell from rock’s early days, through to Dave Grohl of the recent beat masters. All blessed with looks, personality and that old showbiz cliché – charisma – grabbing the focus of camera lenses and turning heads, much like Elemeno P’s rhythm king Scotty Pearson. One of the most readily recognised faces on today’s music scene (and in Auckland streets), the shaggy-blonde power drummer, as decent a bloke as you’ll meet around the venues, is pumped for Friday's main stage appearance at Big Day Out.
Congratulations for what you’ve achieved with Elemeno P. How are you travelling?
I guess you could say we’re at the end of the second album (
Trouble in Paradise
). It’s on its fifth single. We actually had six and a radio single off the last one (
Love and Respect
) – seven, which is phenomenal. We had no idea it was going to go as well as it did. It was the timing – the time was good and things have changed since that record came out. This has been really successful. It was a good record the second album. We’re still insanely proud of it. Because of the times, it hasn’t sold as well. But it’s had just as much radio, video, and our shows have gone from strength to strength. The first album, it had some excellent songs, but we probably became a band after we recorded. After it came out, we started playing a lot and became a really good band. The second album is a reflection that we play really well together.
There would have been great expectations to follow-up with another chart-topper. How did you feel when the final master was in the can?
Massive elation. How do you follow-up your first album that was so successful? And it was an unexpected success. We believed in it as much as we do now. Everyone’s expectations weren’t what happened. We were proud of it. To sell triple platinum (45,000 units) like we did and then just to show them everything else was a massive surprise to us. That made the second album very difficult to make. We wanted another
Tahoe
,
Verona
. To follow those up with something new, there was a mass amount of pressure, personal and outside. We made a conscious decision not to listen to the outside pressure, but the pressure on us individually was pretty huge. And as a band it was as well.
Do you feel you rose to the challenge?
I think so. Getting Sal Villanueva to produce it was a good move (at Sing Sing Studios, Melbourne). He taught us a lot about being in a band, about work ethic. We thought we practised a lot, we thought we worked hard for a band. He came down and just laughed at us and said, ‘look at that person work in the café for eight hours a day, doing something they hate. Why can’t you guys work nine hours a day doing something you love?’ We went in the practice room and literally did that, five or six days a week, six to eight hours a day. It’s hard to keep to that, but as a band, leading up to the second album, we worked our butts off. We pushed ourselves every day. That made us a better unit. We just got used to each other, like a little family, same with our crew. We’ve always been live orientated - the show has been everything. We’ll beat ourselves up pretty hard if we don’t do a good show. In our whole history, we’ve probably done three or four that weren’t that good. Every show is so important. We do a well-rehearsed show. We write our set and don’t deviate from it very much, there’s no jamming. We all know what’s coming next. That frees you up to perform a little bit more, when you’re not nervous about what the next song is. We link our tracks and try and make the show snappy as. We’ve tried to do that from the word go, in our own New Zealand way, with limited budget.
How have you been greeted overseas?
We’ve done two tours of Australia - one was with End of Fashion (Perth rock band), 17 shows. We just went out and did our thing. A 40-minute set and we played our butts off. We kind of like being the underdog. We like having the pressure of really trying to turn people’s heads. That was enjoyable and similarly with The Veronicas, we did about nine shows. It wasn’t particularly our perfect demographic – a bunch of 14-year-old girls – but we rocked them as well.
That makes sense. On top of the rhythm supplied by you and Lani Perkis, what makes Elemeno P standout are cool, melodic and memorable hooks in choruses. They’re some of the best this country has produced.
Thanks. And that’s why we got that (Veronicas) gig. It’s been frustrating in Australia, we really wanted to go and just blitz it. But there are so many factors in having success over there. And we had some of those factors, but they didn’t all line up at the same time. We still hope to do more over there. We’ve always felt we’re not going to relocate somewhere without something decent. We’ve thought, let’s just go, but know we can’t go and live in the same flat. We spend enough time together that we need to have our own thing.
It’s good to be home and grounded as well.
If we have to go for a year somewhere, we’re keen - if it’s working, for sure. Right from the word go and one of the things I like about the band is that if it’s not working, we’ll flag it – what we consider to be successful. We’re not going to sit around here for four years with nothing happening and still keep trying.
Have you any other musical projects planned for the future?
I said to the guys the other day, this will be the last serious band I’m in, as far as trying to make it.
I think you have.
I do too. I’m actually quite happy to be in New Zealand. I can’t walk down the street without someone shouting out – not that that’s what you want – but we have made a huge impact. Our songs will be classic New Zealand rock songs.
They’ll stand the test of time. How do Elemeno P songs come together?
It’s been Justin and Dave. Me and Lani have put our stamp on it. We’re a distinctive rhythm section I suppose. And as a band with a dynamic lead singer like Dave, I’m probably the most recognised of everyone. But as far as music and writing, it’s been Justin and Dave. It’s always been a positive thing, we trust them, believe in what they do. I know they’re going to try and write the best thing they can. Dave’s got a great feel for it. We were all massively experienced beforehand. We didn’t start with Lani, she joined shortly after we got going. It feels like a long time but it’s not really, five years. We were really lucky. I meet with people constantly and they ask: how did you do it? I just go we were lucky. Dave and Justin write really good songs and that’s what got us signed (to Universal NZ).
How did you become a drummer?
I played cello at school until 14. But I love drums and a friend was selling his kit for $100. I played in punk bands at school – we played Ramones songs in the school music competition and won it two years in a row. Then I did all kinds of stuff.
Were you into the new wave/punk scene?
AK79, Proud Scum
, I was into
Toy Love
, all those things. Then I was into Kiwi rock after that, started playing in covers bands in New Plymouth of all places.
Elemeno P has popular appeal with many age groups, but are the core of fans in their teens and 20s?
We want as many people as possible listening to our music. Part of the reason the first album went so well was that young kids, eight year-olds, loved it. They can hear and understand the lyrics. We’ve always been ourselves. I get guys in Placemakers when picking up materials, 50-year-old guys going good one. I went and saw Jimmy Barnes and Diesel the other night at Maungawhai. Fifty-year-old guys were tapping me on the back going, ‘good on ya bro’.
Last year at Big Day Out, you played the main stage in the heat and it was a great, energetic set. What does it mean to play the festival?
We’ve had great Big Day Out shows. The year previous, we played up on the top field, about 3pm, it was packed. It was spectacular. That was when the album was really riding high and we played a scorching set. Those are the memories. There are so many aspects for us to play, to get in front of an audience. That’s what we’re there to do. But you get to hang out with all the other bands.
How do you feel being part of a thriving NZ music scene - songs, tunes and beats from the fresh new world?
I’m amazed at how well we all get on. There’s a real live and let live thing. Everyone we’ve been on tour with, generally, we’ve got on. Everyone’s been supporting of the music, even if you don’t like it. It’s been since radio started playing more Kiwi music. That’s why you can be a band in New Zealand now. You really couldn’t a few years ago. Ten years ago, a band couldn’t survive. I don’t think it’s changed. We can’t tour constantly. It’s about radio that pulls good crowds. It’s cool because it’s given young bands hope. We’re all about being in NZ but now we’re trying to branch out.
Because of Elemeno P’s collective experience, do you think the next album will see a subtle change in style, slightly different musically but more substantial? Retaining the same feel and the magic of the melodies?
That’s what we’re aiming for. We pushed ourselves on the second one. What we want to do with the third one is the consummate Elemeno P album. It’s going to be exactly what we want.
Scotty Pearson, like many NZ music stars, has a day job. He’s a builder and has had Scotty Construction for nine years. So, if you spot a bloke who looks like him in Auckland’s central suburbs and he’s armed with a hammer, tool belt and pile of wood, it’s most likely to be him. He likes it when people say g’day.